Re: SUMMARY: publish list of nominees?

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Geoff and all,

Geoff Huston wrote:

> I disagree with this summary.
>
> Firstly, you omitted an argument that publishing such a list would increase
> the likelihood of organized public campaigning for positions.

  Is this a "Bad" thing?  If so, why?

> you also
> omitted the argument that such actions would do nothing to increase the
> level of confidence in the Nomcom performing its duties diligently.

  Oh?  Well how do you justify that statement Geoff?  It seems you fail
to provide the argument to support this statement...

>
>
> Secondly, I fail to see how 4 in favour and 2 against can be summarized as
> a "consensus". It is not consensus, it is the view of 4 posters, while 2
> posters dissented. That's not consensus.

  If there are only 6 total, than it is a majority, ergo a consensus...

>
>
> Thirdly, I echo concerns by others that the preemptory posting of such
> ex-cathedra pronouncements of "proposed consensus" within a few days of a
> topic being opened is not normally interpreted as responsible chairing of a
> working group. Indeed, one could interpret such actions as being quite the
> opposite. I fail to understand how you interpret this discussion as having
> reached "consensus" at this point in time.

  Perhaps.  But perhaps not as well...  Could you please provide the
argument that would accurately and convincingly support your
contention here?

>
>
> At 3/30/2002 04:56 AM, James M Galvin wrote:
> >SPEAKING AS EDITOR:
> >
> >Of the 6 people who I believe expressed a specific opinion about whether
> >or not to publish the list of nominees there were 4 in favor and 2
> >against.
> >
> >The principal argument in favor is that it opens the door for greater
> >community input.  A NOMCOM can reasonably expect to get input suggesting
> >nominees and comments about incumbents, but if the community does not
> >know who is being considered it is problematic for the community to
> >offer comments (primarily negative comments one would assume) about
> >nominees.  The NOMCOM only gets input from those it asks.
> >
> >Another argument in favor is that the NOMCOM essentially publishes the
> >list of nominees anyway if it, for example, sends a note to the wgchairs
> >mailing list and asks for comments.
> >
> >Finally, it was also suggested that publishing the list relieves some of
> >the burden on the confirming body to ever have to say "no" to one or
> >more candidates.
> >
> >I noted two arguments against publishing the list.  Primarily there is
> >the issue of timing.  New nominees are added throughout the NOMCOM
> >process so it would be necessary to update the list of nominees on some
> >regular basis.  There is concern that this is unnecessary overhead of
> >the process and that this might give too much insight into the
> >confidential workings of the NOMCOM.
> >
> >It was also suggested that publishing the list does not relieve the
> >burden on the confirming bodies to have to say "no" from time to time.
> >
> >
> >If you disagree with this summary or believe I have missed any
> >additional information please reply to the list.
> >
> >
> > >From this summary I would propose the following:
> >
> >     PROPOSED CONSENSUS: We should publish the list of nominees and
> >     continue to update the list throughout the NOMCOM process.
> >
> >If you disagree with this proposal please reply to the list.  If you
> >agree do nothing.  Note that a later message will propose actual and
> >specific textual changes to the document.
> >
> >
> >Jim
> >
> >
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