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Subject: Re: PROPOSED GUIDELINE: balance


Here's a reply without the p-word:  the realities of backbones
and network usage vary significantly from continent to continent,
and therefore the picture of what needs to be done in terms
of architecture and protocol development varies.

You can argue that anyone who works with routing _ought_ to
understand the global picture, but the fact is that having
people steeped in different localities helps.

I would never want to have rules/guidelines saying X from
each continent, but the general principle of not having a 
single continent's view seems a good one.

Leslie.


Brian E Carpenter wrote:
> 
> I can't reply without the p-word; like it or not the IAB in particular
> does have a degree of political visibility and I can assure you that
> the absence or presence of non-N-American members *is* noticed, outside
> N America. But in general, if the IAB doesn't have a variety of perspectives
> on board, it will miss things about the Internet at large. This isn't about
> tokenism; it's about breadth of view. And my point is only that international
> balance is just one of the issues the NomCom should consider. Or to put it
> another way, skill & experience in international aspects of the Internet
> is one of the types of expertise to be considered.
> 
> (I consider that having spent a number of years sitting at the wrong end
> of a long thin pipe under the Atlantic was one of my own qualifications
> for joining the IAB.)
> 
>    Brian
> 
> Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine wrote:
> >
> > Brian,
> >
> > What _is_ the issue? Continent of residency?
> >
> > When I look, with all the limitations of my own eyes, at the people who have
> > made policy in the IAB and IESG in the problem domain of character sets, and
> > memory-aligned fundamental types, I just don't see a lot of expertise.
> >
> > We study flow symmetry, but we appear to believe that our practice either
> > isn't simularity-encouraging, or that it isn't a problem because in principle
> > it isn't a problem. [insert sunscreen here]
> >
> > The v6 trampoline code had the comment /* You are not expected to understand
> > this.*/  I clearly don't understand the international question, if it can be
> > answered by substituting one bunch of nationals by another bunch of nationals.
> >
> > I don't care about musical chairs. I do care about expertise. Of course, the
> > problem area could be out of scope, or I could be completely mistaken. I've
> > heard both points of view expressed.
> >
> > Please consider responding without using the keyword "politics", just treat
> > this as if we'd just discovered that we'd limited transport or applications
> > clue, nothing scarrier, and that there may be more to this detail (thanks kre)
> > than second guessing some other standards body. Using "fiddlesticks" is fine.
> >
> > Eric
> >
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> On assignment at the IBM Zurich Laboratory, Switzerland
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> INET 2002, Washington, DC, 18-21 June http://www.inet2002.org
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