Re: DISCUSSION: rejecting candidates

[Brian E Carpenter <brian@hursley.ibm.com>]

Dave, I agree that we need to hear more voices. But I want to underline that
I believe that checks and balances *require* that the confirming body has the
ability to reject candidates. I quite agree that its primary function is
to verify due process but this is pointless without teeth.

I don't think my comment was ad hominem; it just seemed that the point 
wasn't getting through.

  Brian

Dave Crocker wrote:
> 
> At 07:58 AM 4/16/2002 +0200, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
> >Randy Bush wrote:
> > > i think the hope is s/replicate/understand and consider/
> >
> >Indeed. As Dave seems unwilling to accept, the confirming bodies take their
> >responsibility very seriously,
> 
> Brian, thanks for the ad hominem, especially since there is nothing in my
> notes -- or my intent, by the way -- that in any way mistrusts the motives
> of any of the nomcom process.
> 
> For the n-th time:  The issue is specification of tasks.  Any belief that a
> review body is expected to decide the acceptability of a particular
> candidate is doomed.  The only reasonable task for the review body is to
> review nomcom process and push back if there is indication that the process
> has not been conducted adequately.
> 
> >Exactly. Negotiation takes time. Three more weeks, in my estimation, would
> >allow this.
> 
> The interaction method that currently exists between nomcom and the review
> bodies is not, and cannot be, a negotiation.  The idea that it is
> negotiation demonstrates the problem about the review bodies' job.
> 
> Even if the goal were negotiation, time is not the problem.  The issue is
> the tone of the interaction and the design of the channel, which is formal
> email, crafted like diplomatic missives.
> 
> d/
> 
> Folks, the fact that this topic has not engaged a wider range of
> participation is duly noted.  More comments from others who have served on
> nomcoms would be particularly helpful.
> 
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