Re: DISCUSSION: rejecting candidates

[Eric Gray <eric.gray@sandburst.com>]

Harald,

   Amazing the number of familiar voices in this discussion.

   This NomCom thing is not a new idea.  More than having to
get together a group of loonies that are out of alignment with
the rest of the IETF, you have to get a group of loonies that are
in agreement in their out of alignment state.  This is the true
reason why this kind of process is capable of being surprisingly
effective.  The likelihood that you will get a group of people
who are out of touch with reality and all in the same way is a
bit smaller than the likelihood that you'll get a group of loons.

   If you truly have a group of loonies - or just people who don't
know any better - one of two things is almost certainly going to
occur:  you're going to get 'the default result' or you're going to
get a group of people trying to learn in a hurry how to come up
with an acceptable answer.  Neither of these results is ideal, but
it is surprising how often either of these results is acceptable.

You wrote:

> --On tirsdag, april 23, 2002 19:31:36 -0400 Scott Brim 
> <swb@employees.org> wrote:
>
> > If the process has not failed, and the NomCom did consider these issues
> > but still came out with a different viewpoint, then ideally the
> > confirming body does not get to reject, since for better or worse the
> > NomCom is the voice of the people.  If in fact the process hasn't failed
> > then the confirming body won't be inclined to reject anway.
>
>
> As Dave Crocker mentioned earlier, we have a selection process with no 
> loonie filter - anyone who can stand showing up for 2 IETFs is eligible.
>
> Run this process enough times, and kindergarten statistics show that 
> sooner or later you end up with a committee where the majority is 
> seriously out of alignment with the "voice of the people".
>
> That's a type of process failure, I think, but one where the NomCom's 
> consideration of issues should not be given infinite weight.
>
> Of course, if the incidence of loonies is low enough in the IETF 
> population, we might get lucky for the next 100 years, at which time 
> we probably have larger issues to worry about....
>
>                  Harald
>
>
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