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Subject: Re: DISCUSSION: rejecting candidates


Robert and all,

  And to think that the AT&T lobbyist Marilyn Cade was bragging on
how open and wonderful the present IETF chair and the IETF
it self are recently...  Tisk tisk...

Robert Elz wrote:

>     Date:        Wed, 24 Apr 2002 16:58:03 -0400
>     From:        Eric Gray <eric.gray@sandburst.com>
>     Message-ID:  <3CC71C5B.7060704@sandburst.com>
>
>   |     Amazing the number of familiar voices in this discussion.
>
> Not really, there are only a comparatively small number of people who
> care much about how the IETF is run in the abstract.
>
>   |     If you truly have a group of loonies - or just people who don't
>   | know any better
>
> The latter is far more likely really - the IETF is full of people (most
> likely including me) who don't have any real idea what is going on, but
> believe that they do (in all fields).   The danger in the nomcom is when
> there's no-one outside that (large) group selected, however well meaning,
> the selections they make simply aren't necessarily going to achieve something
> workable.  One might hope that the liaisons might act to prevent that early
> in the process, but unless we spell out the liaison role more clearly, this
> isn't at all certain.
>
> That is, it wouldn't be unreasonable for the past chair to feel (justifiably)
> that their main function was the past year, and the role this time is just
> to answer questions about what happened last time.   The IAB/IESG liaisons
> tend to be whoever on those bodies feels they have time available, and so
> can be one or the less experienced members - as there's currently no guidance
> as to what the liaisons should do the bodies appointing them have no real
> guidance as to the qualities needed - the only real known factor currently
> is that it is likely to take a lot of time.
>
> The general questions of the role of the confirming bodies, and of the role
> of the liaisons probably need to be treated together, to produce something
> consistent and workable, not treated seperately.
>
> kre
>
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