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Subject: RE: Nomcom candidate name announcement alternatives


It seems to me that once a list of people is published, there are going to
be comments made about
some of them.  Once some comments are made, others will want to respond and
will want to "correct" what they perceive as false allegations.  If you
forbid the use of regular lists, you make it harder to correct "accidental
misstatements".   If you want a public process, you have to accept public
debate and comments.  It can't be only partly public.  I don't think there
is any way to limit such debate.

It is clear to me that there are many wildly differing opinions on this
subject. I do not think there is any possibility of any sort of real
consensus and it seems to me that no change is possible at the present time.
There are fundamental questions about the Internet and the governing
authority that have not been addressed and are not likely to be addressed.
The Nomcom is a minor aspect of these questions.

Steve Silverman

-----Original Message-----
From: John C Klensin [mailto:john+nomcom@jck.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 6:52 PM
To: Joel M. Halpern; ietf-nomcom@lists.elistx.com
Subject: Re: Nomcom candidate name announcement alternatives




--On Tuesday, 16 July, 2002 15:39 -0400 "Joel M. Halpern"
<joel@stevecrocker.com> wrote:

> There is an interesting implication here that I had missed.
>
> The phrasing of these points raises the spectre of public
> discussion (on IETF lists) about the published individuals.  If
> this is likely, it would then lead almost inevitably lead to
> politicising the environment.  This is very bad.
>
> However, rather than concluding that we should not publish the
> names, I conclude that we should put in a very strong policy
> prohibiting this discussion on any IETF list.  While this would
> not stop all discussion, it should be sufficient to prevent
> serious politicing.
>
> (And those who color me naive for not having seen this problem
> sooner can chortle quietly.  But publish anyway.)

Joel,

It seems to me that this suggestion is sensible (or not)
independent of whether the names are published (under the
proposed scenario or some other one).

    john



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