Re: Proposal for Reworking the Recall Procedure Initation.

[Donald Eastlake 3rd <dee3@torque.pothole.com>]

I support this simplification, although I'd like a number in the 12 to 
24 range.

Thanks,
Donald

On Wed, 27 Nov 2002, Brian E Carpenter wrote:

> Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 17:44:27 +0100
> From: Brian E Carpenter <brian@hursley.ibm.com>
> To: ietf-nomcom <ietf-nomcom@lists.elistx.com>
> Subject: Re: Proposal for Reworking the Recall Procedure Initation.
> 
> It seems like a good idea to make multiple voices
> necessary to inititate the recall, to prevent frivolous or
> vindictive recall attempts. However, let's keep it simple
> and just require a defined number of qualified signatures.
> I'd make it 10 or 20 at the most. That is enough to prevent
> abuse.
> 
> BTW, the people signing the recall petition all need to be
> excluded from the recall committee in rule 7.3.
> 
>    Brian
> 
> avri doria wrote:
> > 
> > A proposal for changing the requirements for initiating the
> > recall of an IAB or IESG member was discussed in Atlanta.
> > 
> > The following language represents the content of that proposal.
> > 
> > The recommend change would be to section 7.1
> > 
> > --
> > 1. At any time, IETF participants qualified to be Nomcom members
> > according to the rules defined in 4.15, may request, by signed
> > petition, the recall of any sitting IAB or IESG member. The
> > petition must signed by a number of participants equal to 2% of
> > the average attendance of the last 3 IETF meetings and must
> > include a statement of justification for the recall.  The
> > petition must be made public and must be submitted to the
> > Internet Society President.
> > --
> > 
> > The minutes from the meeting, which have been sent to me, but
> > which I have not had time to post process yet, contain some
> > discussion on this proposal.  While the sense of the room seemed
> > to favor the change to a petition, there was no agreement of the
> > number of individuals required for such a petition, i.e. a 1%
> > threshold was recommended as well as a fixed number.  Also there
> > was a discussion of whether the number should be based on the
> > average attendance at the last 3 meetings or on the then current
> > number of Qualified nomcom volunteers (by rule 4.15).
> > 
> > If you have opinions on this issue, please discuss them on the list.
> > I will try to determine the WG rough consensus on 16 Dec 02.
> > 
> > thanks
> > a.
> > 
> > --
> > Avri Doria
> > http://www.sm.luth.se/~avri/
> > 
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