Re: criteria for nomcom participation

[Dave Crocker <dhc@dcrocker.net>]

Dave,

Sunday, January 5, 2003, 6:28:31 AM, you wrote:
Harald> 1) do you have a specific suggestion, or are you just theorizing about the
Harald> boundaries of the problem space?

Sorry. I thought my note was rather explicit about making a suggestion.
Please tell me in what way:

Dave> If we want to ensure that nomcom has participation by people who know about
Dave> IETF processes, then we need to ensure that it has participation by people
Dave> who have been directly involved in the administrative process. That means
Dave> chairs, editors, (former) ADs and (former) IAB members.
Dave>
Dave> Such a pool of potential participaants is too small -- and too select -- to
Dave> be adequate for the entire membership of nomcom. That is the reason for
Dave> suggesting filling some nomcom slots -- choose a percentage: 25%, 33%, 40%,
Dave> 50%? -- from a pool of those who have held formal positions and another pool
Dave> of those who have a recent attendance record, to fill the remaining nomcom
Dave> slots.

is not clear as a suggestion.


Harald> 2) the rough consensus so far seems to be that the criterion we want is 
Harald> knowledge of the IETF process, and that attending meetings is the criterion 
Harald> that we've found that is easy to manage and may have some correlation.

"may have some correlation" is an accurate assessment -- and by the way,
does not contradict:

Dave> The problem with a criterion of meeting attendance is that it has a weak
Dave> correlation with knowing anything about the job of managing the IETF.

In point of fact, the working group discussion has not made much of an
effort to reconcile the clear and serious disparity between the nature of
the current criterion and its lack of strong correlation with the desired
knowledge.


>> Avri> John Klensin ...worried about the "don't volunteer" folk self
>> Avri> selecting out in favor of the ax grinders.

Harald> the purpose I saw in adding this to the oral tradition was to make it clear 
Harald> what kind of people we *want* on the nomcom

I thought the purpose was to show the weakness in the underlying basis for
the current criterion and the underlying weakness with trying to remedy that
weakness by relying on self-selection.

d/
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