Re: Liaisons interoperation with NOMCOM members

[Brian E Carpenter <brian@hursley.ibm.com>]

James M Galvin wrote:
> 
> Speaking personally, I agree with Brian except that I don't think we
> need explicit text.

Since the Nomcom chair has explicit discretion for undocumented
pieces of process, that is strictly true, but some people seem
to want it written.

> 
> Speaking as editor of the document:
> 
> On Fri, 23 May 2003, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
> 
>     I think the text should make it clear that the Nomcom chair can ask
>     the IAB and IESG liaisons to leave the calls when appropriate,
>     rather than attempting to limit their speech.
> 
> The text currently states that all members of the committee are
> explicitly permitted to attend all meetings of the committee.  This
> clarification was added at least one RFC ago to ensure that no one,
> including liaisons, could be excluded.
> 
> As I recall, suggesting that certain members can be excluded then opens
> the discussion for defining the appropriate criteria, and that is a very
> slippery slope.

Indeed, and I would leave that to the Nomcom chair's discretion, and
*not* attempt to write down anything more than "The IAB and IESG 
liaisons may be requested to temporarily leave the conference calls, 
at the chair's discretion."

> 
> Note too, that this version of the document has a dispute resolution
> process that should contribute to the ability of the NOMCOM to
> successfully address internal issues.  It is intended to make it clear
> that any member of the committee has a path to raise concerns and get
> them addressed, fairly and expeditiously.

Yes, and that is how the chair's decisions can be challenged.

   Brian