Re: Issue: Transition rules?

[James M Galvin <galvin+ietf-nomcom@eListX.com>]

In general, all approved documents take effect immediately.  I don't
believe this document should be any different and I don't believe we
need to state that explicitly.

However, I presume you are suggesting we document the "edge case" of
whether or not an operational NOMCOM is required to employ a revised
document if one is published during its tenure?  (It's probably worth
noting for completeness there is always an operational NOMCOM, and in
the current draft revision there is a short period of time when two may
be operating concurrently.)

With protocols I believe we all expect that when a revision is published
it will be adopted immediately and implementations will transition as
soon as possible.  It's not a perfect expectation but it mostly works.
We should have the same situation with this document.

Do we need to document that?

I would not do it in this document.  If we believe that IETF procedures
in general should be adopted when approved then let's make that the
policy for all procedures.  I do not believe this document should be
special with respect to this issue.

I think we should have just such a policy.

Jim




On Mon, 13 Oct 2003, Harald Tveit Alvestrand wrote:

    Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 10:09:56 +0200
    From: Harald Tveit Alvestrand <harald@alvestrand.no>
    To: ietf-nomcom@lists.elistx.com
    Subject: Issue: Transition rules?

    because of the timing stuff, this has gone from a non-issue to perhaps an
    issue......

    the current nomcom doc says nothing about when it takes effect, or what
    that effect is on a currently seated nomcom.

    I think one sensible procedure would be that it takes effect the moment the
    ISOC Board accepts a motion to observe that this is current IETF procedure
    (or some other convoluted wording), and that a sitting nomcom switch to
    using the rules as far as possible, but does not change decisions taken in
    the past (for instance, the change in selection rules would not force a
    current nomcom member to resign, but the sitting nomcom would be expected
    to use the new rules when communicating with the confirming bodies).

    1) Does that make sense?
    2) Should the document say so?

    Of course, an alternate is that the rules take effect when the IESG has
    approved the document. Thoughts?

                     Harald



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