IESG issue 10 (Re: Mid discussion update on IESG Issues)

[Harald Tveit Alvestrand <harald@alvestrand.no>]

Since this issue was listed as needing further discussion, I'll put my two 
cents in.....

--On 18. oktober 2003 22:25 +0900 Avri Doria <avri@acm.org> wrote:

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> IESG Issue 10
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> > >        conducted.  A member may recalled if at least a quorum of all
> > >        committee members agree, including the vote of the member being
> > >        recalled.
> >
> > What does this mean? simple majority if there is a quorum? (I ask
> > because in most cases this document doesn't proscribe rules, leaving
> > that to the nomcom to decide.)
>
> Background:  While the document discusses the quorum that must be
> present for a vote, the actual voting mechanisms are to be be  determined
> by the Nomcom itself.
>
> Question: should text be added making an explicit rule for the voting  in
> a Nomcom recall be specified in the document.
>
> DISCUSSION SO FAR:  2 comments
>
> 2 answers of yes.
> - suggestion of 2/3 or majority
> - comment that 2/3 was too stringent.

This is another piece of code that has never been run.
I was reading "at least a quorum has to agree" as "the number of people 
required to make a quorum has to agree". That number is 75% of the nomcom 
according to section 5 bullet 6.

I'm not averse to saying 2/3, but a simple majority of a minimum quorum 
(approx 38%) doesn't seem right to me. IMHO, removing a nomcom member 
SHOULD be a crisis mesaure, not a routine matter.

But since my reading wasn't what other people read into it, I agree that 
the issue needs to be clarified.

Suggested change, also fixing the grammar nit:

OLD:

                 A member may recalled if at least a quorum of all
       committee members agree, including the vote of the member being
       recalled.

NEW:

       A member may be recalled if at least a quorum of all committee
       members (defined above as 75%) vote for the recall.


                    Harald