Re: [sitefinder-tech-discuss] Technical issues encountered by a k12 site

[Damaged Industries <damaged@damaged.no-ip.com>]

On Wed, 8 Oct 2003, Andrew Newton wrote:

> vsn@dellah.org wrote:
> > * Andrew Newton (anewton@verisignlabs.com) [09 Oct 2003 02:04]:
> >
> > [...]
> >
> >>Without speculating on news.com's report of yesterday's meeting, I
> >>would like to make this clarifying point:  VeriSign has taken note of
> >>the communities desire for advance notice and will provide advance
> >>notice in the future.
> >
> >
> > How _much_ advance notice? A month? A year? A day? 5 minutes?
>
> As far as I know, we have not determined the duration of the advance
> notice.  However, we do intend for it to be meaningful.
>
> For the purposes of constructive dialog, how much advance notice do you
> feel should be given?
>
> -andy
>
>

All this talk about working with us to get sitefinder back up again
all seems a bit acedemic, because, the point is, you do NOT own .net and
.com, you are merley a steward.

The technical issues shouldn't even be a matter of discussion, you
shouldn't be allowed to wildcard things that DO NOT belong to you.

And I think it boarders on pure comedy that you expect thousands+ of
coders to change their code for YOU to make money under some pretense of
wanting to help the internet community.

As for the matter of "how much time you need?", we shouldn't want to
define a time for something that should not be done to begin with, to do so would
give credit to their attempts, for they will spin this as well citing
something to the effect of, "we are now discussing this with the internet
tech community and working on a time frame for which sitefinder could be
introduced". This may let some people beleive that our only problem is the
notice, let us not lose track, the point is, they do NOT own .net and
.com, period.

Also as mentioned before, the fact that Mark McLaughlin told so many bent
truths (lies) about ICANN shutting down Sitefinder when in reality they
only asked them to remove the WILDCARDS, makes one beleive that Verisign
is up to no good, and that no good can come out of anything you guys do.

You cannot expect us to trust you when your OWN VP lied, and we all know
he did.

AFAIC anything any verisign employee says should be taken with a grain of
salt. Remember their jobs are at stake.

Want to regain our trust? Drop this wildcard pipedream and start working
on a browser plugin for it.

Then they insult the nanog community?

I for one don't care how much time you give us, I don't want it forced
on me, I don't want to recompile hundreds of daemons to implement changes
to code to work around/with your money train, are you willing to pay for
companies costs to do all this? I'll wager not.

We don't want it (wildcards NOT sitefinder).

Is not the message clear enough? If not then it is  clear that you only
hear what you wish, which means this discussion is over before it even
begins for you have allready made up your minds.

I am going to purge myself, can Verisign be held liable for physical
illness attributed to their practices? Hrmmm...gotta check that.


Sorry if I offended anyone outside of Verisign.

 -- damaged